Charles Todd Interview Pt. II
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1) So a few things have changed since the last time we did this. Book number five has just come out. And we know that Charles Todd is in fact two people. So I guess the first question I have is, How did the idea to collaborate on the books come about? WITH GREAT HILARITY. CHARLES--SERIOUSLY, I THOUGHT CAROLINE WAS JOKING
AND I GAVE HER A SERIES OF OFF THE WALL TITLES THAT WE COULD PLAY AROUND
WITH. THEN I PROMPTLY FORGOT ABOUT IT UNTIL I WAS STUCK IN A HOTEL ROOM
WITH NOTHING TO DO BUT WATCH RERUNS ON TV, AND IT SEEMED LIKE SOMETHING
WE OUGHT TO EXPLORE. 2) I have to say that seeing the two of you together at the nomination ceremony for the Anthony awards kind of choked me up a little. Is it fun to do these things together? IT REALLY IS. CAROLINE HAS HER FANS, I HAVE MINE, AND WE ARE OFTEN OFF
DOING SEPARATE MEETINGS OR BREAKFASTS OR WHATEVER. THE THING IS WE DON'T
LIVE TOGETHER, SO WHEN WE DO HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT LIKE THIS, IT'S NICE.
MY DAD PUTS UP WITH THE TWO OF US, BUT I THINK HE THINKS WE'RE BOTH CRAZY.
TAKING AFTER CAROLINE'S SIDE OF THE FAMILY TREE, OF COURSE. BUT HE WORKS
WITH US, DRIVING THE CARS IN ENGLAND AND TAKING A LOT OF PHOTOGRAPHS WHILE
WE DO RESEARCH. HE'S A SCIENTIST, BUT ENJOYS READING MYSTERIES TOO. 3) Are there advantages to working together with family? YES. WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW EACH OTHER'S LIMITS AND THAT MAKES IT EASIER.
ALSO THERE'S NO SENSE OF COMPETITION. WE BOTH CARE ABOUT RUTLEDGE, AND
HIS NEEDS ARE PARAMOUNT. AFTER FIVE BOOKS, HE'S MORE REAL THAN EVER, AND
I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE WHOLE THING WORK--WE'RE MORE INTERESTED
IN HIM THAN OURSELVES. 4) So far all the books see Rutledge being sent to small towns to investigate crimes. At some point will we get to see him do his thing in London? CHARLES--HE WILL OCCASIONALLY DO SOMETHING IN LONDON, BUT IN 1919 LONDON
WAS BECOMING MORE COSMOPOLITAN, MOVING ON TOWARDS THE 'TWENTIES. AND THAT'S
A DIFFERENT BALL GAME. WE AREN'T PARTICULARLY INTERESTED YET IN GETTING
AHEAD OF OURSELVES. AND IN THE CLOSED ROOM ATMOSPHERE OF A CAROLINE--A VILLAGE ISN'T A VILLAGE ISN'T A VILLAGE. EACH ONE IS SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF ITS HISTORY AND ITS SETTING AND ITS INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S MORE VARIETY IN WRITING ABOUT OTHER PARTS OF ENGLAND THAN IN STICKING WITH LONDON. ECONOMIC STATUS DIVIDES LONDON'S POPULATION, BUT OTHER THINGS INFLUENCE A VILLAGER'S PLACE IN THE SCHEME OF ITS STORY. |
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5) At Bouchercon you told me about taking a family trip to England and doing research. Could you talk a little about that? It sounds wonderful. CHARLES --IT WAS WILD. WE HAD NINE DAYS BECAUSE I WORK FOR A LIVING AND
AM ALWAYS TRYING TO SAVE VACATION TIME FOR CONVENTIONS LIKE MALICE AND
BOUCHERCON. WE BEGAN WITH METICULOUS PLANNING, KNOWING WHAT WE WANTED
TO DO WHERE AND FOR HOW LONG. WE GOT TO HEATHROW, AND ONLY CAROLINE'S
SUITCASE HAD ARRIVED WITH US. DAD NEVER GOT HIS AND ROUGHED IT FOR 9 DAYS.
WE WERE SO TIRED WE SET OUT THE WRONG WAY ON THE M OUTSIDE HEATHROW, AND
IT WAS TWO EXITS BEFORE WE CAUGHT ON. I GOT OUT MY TRUSTY GPS AND STARTING
PLOTTING THE WAY TO KENT, AND WE USED THAT SYSTEM THE REMAINDER OF THE
TRIP. WHAT WE SAW IN KENT TURNED INTO THE NEXT BOOK AFTER WATCHERS OF
TIME--A FEARSOME DOUBT. WE HAD GREAT DINNERS IN SMALL COUNTRY HOTELS BUT WE PICKED UP MEAT PIES AND CIDER AND BREAD AND CHEESE FOR LUNCH, OR ATE IN A PUB. IN BETWEEN WE WERE CONCENTRATING ON ALL THE THINGS WE HAD TO PHOTOGRAPH. WE HAD A FLAT TIRE OUT IN NORFOLK ON THE NARROWEST OF ROADS, AND THE ONLY SAFE AREA TO CHANGE IT WAS IN A MUD PUDDLE. WE GOT TO THE TOWN THAT WAS TO BECOME OSTERLEY, AND WERE FASCINATED BY THE GREAT CHURCH THERE. IT CAME INTO THE STORY AT THAT POINT. WE TASTED SOME ITALIAN PLUM COGNAC IN COLCHESTER, AND IT GAVE A WHOLE NEW MEANING TO JET-LAG. MY DAD'S SUITCASE REACHED US IN ETON, THE NIGHT BEFORE WE FLEW OUT. HE LOOKED GREAT AT DINNER, THE ONLY ONE WITH STILL-PRESSED CLOTHES. BUT OUT OF THAT SHORT TRIP, WE REVISITED SOME OLD AND WELL-LOVED SIGHTS, CLIMBED TINTAGEL AGAIN, FOUND SOME NEW IDEAS AND INTERESTING PLACES FOR LATER BOOKS, AND WE WORKED ON WATCHERS AND A FEARSOME DOUBT. 36 ROLLS OF FILM LATER-- 6) Hamish MacLeod. Hes kind of a partner, kind of a conscience. Where did this idea come from, and exactly how does Hamish fit in to the books? WE WERE INTERESTED IN USING THE GREAT WAR AS A BACKDROP TO THE STORY,
AND LOOKING FOR WAYS TO INDICATE THAT RUTLEDGE HAD BEEN A SERVING OFFICER
AND HOW THE WAR HAD AFFECTED HIM PERSONALLY. SUDDENLY WE REALIZED THAT
WE WERE LOOKING AT A MAN WHO HAD ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT PROBLEM IN HIS
OWN FASHION. HAMISH WAS HIS CREATION, NOT OURS. AND IT SEEMED TO BE FAR
MORE REALISTIC THAN ANY SUPERIMPOSED IDEA ON OUR PART. HE'S THERE IN THE
BOOKS AS RUTLEDGE'S CONSCIENCE, HIS WAR WOUND. HERE'S A MAN WHO ONCE HUNTED
MURDERERS--AND NOW HE CONSIDERS HIMSELF ONE. IT ADDS COMPASSION AND UNDERSTANDING
AND A FAR MORE PERSONAL VIEW OF THE CASES HE INVESTIGATES. HE'S NOT ARROGANT
AND HE'S NOT SET APART FROM THE PEOPLE HE HAS TO QUESTION. HE REALIZES
THAT HE'S AS HUMAN AND VULNERABLE AS THEY ARE. 7) The books cover are really stunning. Do you get input on them? NO, BUT THEY SHOW US THE FINAL DESIGN FOR ANY COMMENTS. BOTH OF MY EDITORS
HAVE HAD THE ESSENCE OF THE BOOKS IN MIND. NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE
STYLE OF THE JACKET ART A LITTLE. THE BOOKS ARE ENJOYING SUCH A WIDESPREAD
READERSHIP THAT THE FEELING IS IT SHOULD REACH EVEN MORE PEOPLE, SOME
OF WHOM MIGHT NEVER PICK UP AN HISTORICAL COVER. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT
THEY COME UP WITH. KNOWING BANTAM, IT WILL BE IN GREAT TASTE. 8) Is reading something youve shared as a family? Are you both mystery fans? MY PARENTS CAME FROM FAMILIES THAT READ ALL KINDS OF BOOKS, BIOGRAPHY, HISTORY, LITERATURE, POETRY--YOU NAME IT. THEY ALSO LIKED MYSTERIES. I CAN REMEMBER CAROLINE READING ALOUD SHERLOCK HOLMES AND THE GOLD BUG AND OTHER STORIES WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG. WE LIKE SUSPENSE FILMS, WE WATCH MYSTERIES ON TV, WE READ MORE THAN WE REALLY HAVE TIME FOR, AND WE HAVE OUR FAVORITES. BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE WERE READ TO WHEN YOUNG, ALL OF US, AND IT HAD A LASTING EFFECT. IT'S A FAMILY LEGACY, AND SOMETHING TO PASS ON TO EVERY GENERATION. 9) Who are some of your favorite authors? WHAT, YOU WANT TO GET US KILLED?? CHARLES: I DISCOVERED A LOT OF NEW WRITERS WHEN I DID THE 10) When you first started writing the first book, did you have any idea that it would be so wildly popular? NO. WE WEREN'T EVEN GOING TO SEND IT IN TO AN AGENT. NOBODY WOULD BE
INTERESTED, WE WERE SURE OF THAT. THEN WE DECIDED TO SEND IT TO RUTH CAVIN,
JUST TO FIND OUT IF IT WAS REALLY A NOVEL--WE ONLY WANTED HER TO SAY SOMETHING
LIKE, "I HAVE ENJOYED READING THIS MANUSCRIPT, BUT--" AND IT
WOULD IN A WAY GIVE US A SENSE THAT WE HADN'T DONE TOO BADLY AFTER ALL.
SORT OF THAT LAST FLOURISH BEFORE PUTTING THE BOOK AWAY AND LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING ELSE TO WORK ON TOGETHER. I'D SEEN THIS NEAT VIDEO ON BUILDING
YOUR OWN HELICOPTER.... BUT IT'S ALSO WHY WE JUST USED THE ONE NAME--DIDN'T
MOST COLLABORATORS? LOOK AT EMMA LATHEN OR MAAN MEYERS. AND WE INTEND
TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, ONE NAME. BEFORE YOU FEEL TOO SORRY FOR CAROLINE,
REMEMBER THAT CHARLES AND CAROLINE HAVE THE SAME ROOT. I TOLD YOU SHE
WAS CLEVER. 11) How would you describe Rutledge? I DON'T THINK WE EVER HAVE. HE'S TALL, TO BEGIN WITH, THAT'S COME OUT.
AND HE HAS DARK EYES, PROBABLY DARK HAIR. THE CELTIC BACKGROUND, WE THINK.
HE HAS AN AQUILINE NOSE, LIKE ONE OF OUR ANCESTORS, AND HE HAS A COMPASSIONATE
NATURE. AND WHEN HE SMILES AND IT TOUCHES HIS EYES, YOU SEE SOMETHING
OTHER THAN THE THIN, HAUNTED EX-SOLDIER TRYING TO SURVIVE. A GLIMPSE INTO
THE MAN WHO LIVED BEFORE THE WAR. EVERYONE TELLS US HE'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE
MAN, AND EVEN SEXY. BUT THAT WASN'T WHAT WE WERE SETTING OUT TO WRITE.
IT'S WHAT OTHERS SEE IN HIM. MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE CARES ABOUT PEOPLE AND
IS INTERESTED IN THEM. HE CAN EMPATHIZE WHILE STANDING BACK TO JUDGE SOMEONE'S
INVOLVEMENT IN A MURDER. HE'S ATTRACTED TO INTERESTING WOMEN, AND THAT
COMES THROUGH SOMETIMES IN HIS RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM. EACH ONE IN HER
OWN WAY CONTRIBUTES TO THE HEALING PROCESS OF LOSING HIS JEAN. AND A GOOD
SHOW THAT HE DID. SHE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE HIM HAPPY. 12) The publishing business being the way it is, most authors need to do at least some self promotion. Does the website help with this? What else do you do? BUDGETS ARE ALWAYS TIGHT FOR PROMOTION, UNLESS YOU'VE ALREADY SOLD 40
MILLION COPIES. THEN THEY TRY FOR 41. THE PUBLISHER HAS ADS OUT THERE
FOR THE SERIES, AND WE WERE IN THE SISTERS IN CRIME AUTHORS LIST IN PUBLISHERS
WEEKLY THIS FALL. CONVENTIONS ARE ONE OF THE BEST WAY TO REACH READERS,
BECAUSE IT'S SO PERSONAL. AND WE GET TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. WE TRY TO
WORK WITH BOOKSTORES, BECAUSE THEY SUPPORT US AND WE SIGN BOXES OF BOOKS
FOR THEM. THEY OFTEN HAND SELL US, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT MORE THAN WE
CAN SAY. . WE ANSWER ALL THE MESSAGES FROM THE WEBSITE GUEST BOOK, AND
IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THAT THERE ARE MANY INTERNATIONAL READERS AS WELL
AS AN AMERICAN CROSS SECTION. THE AGES OF READERS IS A CROSS SECTION TOO--WE
HAVE EVERYONE FROM HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO PEOPLE IN THEIR EIGHTIES. WE
DO INTERVIEWS WHEN ASKED, BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER WAY OF REACHING PEOPLE.
KEEPS US BUSY! 13) When you plot out the books, do you think its important to be fair with the reader and give them a chance to solve the mystery? YOU HAVE TO BE FAIR TO THE READER. ALL THE CLUES ARE THERE, AND IT IS
JUST A QUESTION OF HOW YOU PUT THEM TOGETHER AS TO WHETHER YOU FIGURE
OUT THE MURDERER BEFORE THE AUTHOR DOES. A WRITER ISN'T TRYING TO SHOW
HE'S (SHE'S) SUPERIOR TO EVERYONE ELSE, HE'S (SHE'S) OFFERING A CHALLENGE.
CAN YOU SEE WHAT RUTLEDGE SEES? CAN YOU JUDGE PEOPLE THE WAY HE DOES?
HOW DID YOU WORK OUT THE ENDING? ANYBODY WHO BUYS AND READS YOUR NOVEL
DESERVES TO BE ENTERTAINED, NOT ANNOYED. 14) Is Rutledge going to age in the series? Are we someday going to see him in his late fifties investigating or consulting? IF YOU HAVE NOTICED, THE BOOKS SO FAR HAVE COVERED NEARLY SIX MONTHS
OF HIS LIFE AFTER LEAVING THE CLINIC. JUNE WAS TEST OF WILLS, JULY WINGS
OF FIRE, ETC. WATCHERS BRINGS US TO OCTOBER. WE USED THIS SYSTEM RATHER
THAN THE PASSAGE OF YEARS BECAUSE PART OF THE STORY IS HOW A MAN RECOVERS
HIS EQUILIBRIUM, AND THE READER SEEMS TO WANT TO SHARE IN THAT EXPLORATION,
NOT TO PICK UP THE NEXT NOVEL AND LEARN IT'S NOW 1923 OR WHATEVER, RUTLEDGE
IS COMPLETELY HEALED AND GETTING MARRIED IN MAY. THAT WORKS WELL WITH
MANY TYPES OF CHARACTERS, DON'T GET ME WRONG. BUT HERE WHAT IS HAPPENING
WITHIN THIS MAN IS A GRADUAL PROCESS OF DISCOVERY. 15) Aside from the fact that I have to wait until next fall for the next book, what can you tell us about A Fearsome Doubt? A FEARSOME DOUBT IS SOMETHING WE THOUGHT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO TRY.
IT'S NOVEMBER, RUTLEDGE IS HAVING TROUBLES WITH THE ARMISTICE CELEBRATIONS
THAT EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT--IT HAS REVIVED TOO MANY OF HIS OWN MEMORIES
OF THE WAR. HE DOESN'T SEE HIMSELF AS A HERO WELCOMED HOME, HE DOESN'T
BELIEVE HE BELONGS WITH THE HONORABLY WOUNDED, AND HE'S GOT TOO MANY DEAD
ON HIS OWN CONSCIENCE AFTER FOUR YEARS OF FIGHTING TO STAND AND LISTEN
TO POLITICAL SPEECHES ABOUT THE MEANING OF DYING FOR ONE'S COUNTRY. AT
THIS VERY DIFFICULT TIME HE'S THROWN INTO TWO INVESTIGATIONS--ONE FROM
HIS PAST, PRE-WAR, PRE-HAMISH, AND ANOTHER PRESENT DAY ONE THAT INADVERTENTLY
DRAGS HIM BACK INTO AN EXPERIENCE HE HAD WIPED OUT OF HIS MIND IN THE
LAST DAY OF THE WAR. IT'S A CHALLENGE 16) The books seem to have a very wide appeal. I know people who read almost nothing but hard boiled who love them. The same is true of historical readers, cozy readers. And they also appeal to a wide age group. Why do you think that is? AT FIRST WE WERE COMPLETELY UNPREPARED FOR THIS. WE EXPECTED TO REACH
READERS WHO WANTED TO WALK THOUGH AN INTERESTING CASE WITH SOMEONE LIKE
RUTLEDGE. INSTEAD THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DRAWN TO THIS
MAN. ROMANTIC TIMES HAS GIVEN US AN AWARD FOR SEARCH THE DARK, BEST HISTORICAL
FOR THAT YEAR. VIET NAM VETS HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY SEE A LOT OF THEIR
OWN SUFFERING IN RUTLEDGE'S. WE HEAR FROM READERS WHO WOULD NEVER DREAM
OF GETTING HOOKED ON THIS GENRE TELLING US THAT THEY RUSHED OUT TO BUY
THE ONLY RUTLEDGE SHORT STORY. SOMEONE FROM NEW YORK CITY TOLD US THAT
THEY UNDERSTOOD THEIR OWN EMOTIONS IN THE AFTERMATH OF SEPT. 11 BECAUSE
THE NOVELS HAD GIVEN THEM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF POSTTRAUMATIC STRESS
SYNDROME. DON'T GET ME WRONG--ALL THIS IS WONDERFUL! BUT IT IS AMAZING
AS WELL. OUR GUESS WOULD BE THAT THERE'S A HUMAN QUALITY TO THE STORY
AND TO THE CHARACTERS AND TO THE EMOTIONS OR FEARS THAT TEAR EVERYBODY
APART. THAT MUST BE WHAT A READER FINDS FIRST AND STAYS WITH. HISTORY
MAY NOT BE HIS OR HER THING, BUT CARING ABOUT THE PEOPLE IS, WHATEVER
HIS OR HER FAVORITE GENRE. THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE BEST IN A BOOK OURSELVES,
AND IT MUST BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO WELL FOR THAT REASON. 17) Any thoughts on doing kind of a flashback book, with a Rutledge on a case before the war? NOT REALLY. WE GET INTO PRE-WAR IN SOME FASHION IN NEARLY EVERY NOVEL,
SO THAT THERE'S A CONTRAST, BUT A FEARSOME DOUBT COMES CLOSEST TO THAT
IDEA. THE RUTLEDGE SHORT STORIES ARE OFTEN SET DURING THE WAR WHEN HAMISH
WAS ALIVE. WHAT INTRIGUES US IS A NOVEL ABOUT THE PRE-WAR YEARS THAT GIVES
US A DIFFERENT FLEXIBILITY IN SETTING AND ACTION AND CHARACTERS. 18) Well, heres a question I usually can only get one perspective
on. CAROLINE: PRECOCIOUS. STUBBORN. TOO SMART FOR WORDS. CARING. AND ALREADY
MARCHING TO HIS OWN DRUMMER. STAND HIM IN A CORNER FOR BEING NAUGHTY,
AND HE'D BE MAKING UP GAMES WITH THE SHADOWS ON THE WALL. A SLOW TEMPER.
SOME OF THE NEATEST IDEAS. INTERESTING GUY, EVEN AT TWO. OF COURSE THERE
ARE TIMES WHEN I COULD GLADLY KILL HIM, YOU UNDERSTAND. BUT AS HE AGES,
LIKE GOOD BRANDY HE GETS BETTER. 19) Have you tucker-ized anyone in your books? NOT REALLY BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO FORCE FIT A CHARACTER INTO A PRE-EXISTING
MOLD. BUT THERE ARE CHARACTERISTICS THAT SHOW UP SOMETIMES AND SURPRISE
US. A WRITER ABSORBS EVERYTHING, AND SOONER OR LATER IT REAPPEARS. BUT
YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT UNTIL ALL AT ONCE YOU RECOGNIZE A HABIT OR A
WAY OF THINKING. THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT CHARACTER ALWAYS THE VILLAIN?
20) When will I be able to buy a Rutledge Rain Coat? CHARLES: I DON'T KNOW. I CAN SEE A LINE OF TRENCH COATS WITH HIS NAME
ON THE LABEL. REALLY COOL STUFF LIKE THOSE HEMINGWAY FISHING HATS. WHAT
WAS THAT CATALOG THAT USED TO COME IN THE MAIL? PETERSON'S? IT HAD THE
KIND OF FLAIR THAT GOES WITH RUTLEDGE AND THE GREAT WAR. 21) How important is a good editor? HOW IMPORTANT IS BREATHING?? WE'VE BEEN LUCKY WITH TWO OF THE FINEST
IN THE BUSINESS, RUTH CAVIN AND KATE MICIAK. WHEN THEY SPEAK, YOU LISTEN.
THEY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE THAT A GOOD WRITER NEEDS TO LOOK
EVEN BETTER. BOTH KATE AND RUTH LOVED A TEST OF WILLS (BANTAM DID THE
SOFTCOVER, ST. MARTIN'S THE HARDCOVER) AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE RUTLEDGE
IS COMING FROM. AND WE'VE DECIDED THAT IF WE CAN EVER KIDNAP HALF OF KATE'S
VERY EFFICIENT STAFF, WE COULD PROBABLY WRITE TWO BOOKS A YEAR. 22) Whats the one thing always in your refrigerator? CHARLES--YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN MINE--ICE CUBES FOR A NOW 17 YEAR OLD CAT WHO WANTS TO SEE ICEBERGS FLOATING IN HIS WATER DISH THE MINUTE I STEP IN THE DOOR. CAROLINE--YOU MEAN BESIDES HALF GALLONS OF CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM? I THINK THERE'S ALSO A SIX YEAR OLD LOBSTER CALLED GEORGE IN THE FREEZER. HE WAS PART OF THE CELEBRATION FOR PUBLICATION OF TEST OF WILLS, AND WE COULDN'T BEAR TO EAT HIM AFTER SOMEBODY NAMED HIM. |
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